rwp@Revelation:17:8 @{Was and is not} (\n kai ouk estin\). Imperfect and present of \eimi\, an apparent antithesis to \ho n kai ho n\ of 1:4|. This is a picture of the beast of 13:1ff.| which the woman is riding, but no longer just the empire, but one of the emperors who died (\ouk estin\, is not). {And is about to come up out of the abyss} (\kai mellei anabainein ek ts abussou\). That is, he is going to come to life again. {And to go into perdition} (\kai eis apleian hupagei\). Songs:(and he goes into perdition) the best MSS. read rather than the infinitive \hupagein\. Most interpreters see here an allusion to the "Nero _redivivus_" expectancy realized in Domitian, who was ruling when John wrote and who was called Nero _redivivus_. {Shall wonder} (\thaumasthsontai\). First future passive (deponent) of \thaumaz\, with which compare \ethaumasth\ in 13:3|. John had wondered (\ethaumasa\) in verse 6| "with the amazement of a horrible surprise; the world will wonder and admire" (Swete). {Whose name} (\hn onoma\). Singular \onoma\, like \ptma\ in 11:8|. See 13:8| for the same description of those who worship the beast and for discussion of details. {When they behold} (\blepontn\). Genitive plural of the present active participle of \blep\, agreeing with \hn\ (genitive relative) rather than with \hoi katoikountes\ (nominative just before \hn\). {How that} (\hoti\). "Namely that." {He was, and is not, and shall come} (\n kai ouk estin kai parestai\). Repetition of what is in verse 7| with \parestai\ (future of \pareimi\, from which \parousia\ comes) in place of \mellei\, "parody of the divine name" (Charles) in 1:4,8; 4:8|, "as the hellish antitype of Christ." The Neronic Antichrist has also a \parousia\.