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orthjbc@Matthew:10:25 @ It is enough for the talmid that he be as his Rebbe, and the eved as his Ba'al Bayit. If they called the Ba'al Bayit (note:)the master of the house(:note) "Ba'al-zibbul," how much more the anashim men in his bais.

orthjbc@Matthew:15:8 @ YA'AN KI NIGASH HAAM HAZEH BEFIV U'VISHFATAV KI-B'DUNI V'LIBO RICHAK MIMENI VA'TEHI YIRA'TAM OTI MITZVAT ANASHIM MELUMADAH ("This people with their lips honor Me, but their heart is far away from Me,

orthjbc@Mark:2:3 @ And they come carrying to Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach a paralytic being carried along by arba'a anashim.

orthjbc@Mark:7:6 @ And Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach said to them, "Yeshayah rightly gave nevu'ah of you tzevu'im, as it has been written, HAAM HAZEH BISFATAV KIBDUNI V'LIBO RIKHAK MIMENI VATEHI YIRATAM OTI MITZVAT ANASHIM MELUMMADAH ("This people with [their] lips honor me, but their heart is removed far away from me.

orthjbc@Luke:2:52 @ And Yehoshua kept increasing in chochmah V'GADEL VATOV GAM IM HASHEM V'GAM IM ANASHIM (note:)"and stature and favor with Hashem and men" Shmuel Alef strkjv@2:26(:note).

orthjbc@Luke:6:35 @ "But show ahavah to your oyvim and do mitzvahs and Gemilut Chasadim, expecting nothing in return. And your sachar will be rav. And you will be bnei Elyon (note:)sons of the Most High(:note), because he is kind to anashim ra'im and those without hodayah.

orthjbc@Luke:6:36 @ "Be anashim of rachamanut (note:)compassion(:note) just as also your Elohim HaAv is rachum compassionate." [Tehillim strkjv@103:8] ON GIVING UP A FARIBEL GRUDGE

orthjbc@Luke:9:14 @ For there were about chamesh elafim anashim. But Rebbe Melech HaMoshiach said to his talmidim, "Have them recline [as at tish], chamishim in a group." [Tehillim strkjv@23:2]

orthjbc@Luke:17:10 @ "So also you, when you do all these things which are given you as mitzvot, say, `We are useless avadim, we only did our duty.'" REBBE MELECH HAMOSHIACH AND PESACH IN YERUSHALAYIM; ONLY ONE OF THE ANASHIM METZORA'IM IS MAKIR OF MOSHIACH; THE MONUMENTAL INGRATITUDE OF THE AM YISROEL FOR THEIR REBBE, MELECH HAMOSHIACH; BE MAKIR DO NOT LOOK FOR ANOTHER!

orthjbc@Luke:17:12 @ And entering into a certain shtetl, some anashim metzora'im (note:)leprous men(:note) met Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach, and there were asarah ten of them. Keeping their distance, [Vayikra strkjv@13:45,46]

orthjbc@Luke:18:10 @ "Shnei anashim went up to the Beis Hamikdash to daven, one was a Perush and the other, a moches (note:)tax-collector(:note).

orthjbc@Luke:24:7 @ saying, `It is necessary for the Ben HaAdam (note:)Moshiach, Daniel strkjv@7:13-14(:note) to be delivered over into the hands of anashim chote'im and to be hanged on HaAitz [Devarim strkjv@21:22] and on HaYom HaShlishi to stand up alive again.'"

orthjbc@John:6:10 @ Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach said, "Instruct the anashim (note:)men(:note) to recline." Now there was much grass in the area. Therefore the anashim reclined, their number being about chameshet elafim five thousand.

orthjbc@John:6:14 @ Therefore, the anashim, having seen what ot [miraculous sign] he did, were saying, "This one is omein the Navi, Hu HaBah, the one coming into the Olam Hazeh." [Devarim strkjv@18:15,18]

orthjbc@John:12:43 @ For their ahavah was for the kavod anashim rather than the kavod Hashem. [Shmuel Alef strkjv@15:30] JUDGMENT WHEN THE AV BET DIN WILL BE REBBE, MELECH HAMOSHIACH

orthjbc@Acts:1:21 @ "It is necessary, therefore, that one of the anashim who accompanied us during all the time in which Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach Adoneinu Yehoshua went in and went out among us,

orthjbc@Acts:1:23 @ And they put forward two anashim, Yosef Bar-Sabba, also called Justus, and Mattityahu.

orthjbc@Acts:2:14 @ But Kefa, having stood with the Achad Asar, lifted up his voice and declared to them, "Anashim Yehudim! And the ones inhabiting Yerushalayim, have da'as of all this and be goires to my dvarim.

orthjbc@Acts:2:29 @ "Anashim Achim, it is permitted to speak with bittachon to you benoigeia (note:)regarding(:note) Dovid Avinu, that also he died and was buried and his kever is with us until this day. [Melachim Alef strkjv@2:10; Nechemyah strkjv@3:16]

orthjbc@Acts:4:16 @ saying, "What should we do with these anashim? For that a remarkable ot (note:)miraculous sign(:note) has occurred through them is evident to all the ones inhabiting Yerushalayim, and we are not able to make hakhchashah denial of the fact.

orthjbc@Acts:5:14 @ And more and more ma'aminim hameshichiyim in Adoneinu were being added, multitudes of anashim and nashim,

orthjbc@Acts:5:35 @ And Rabban Gamli'el said to them, "Anshei Yisroel, pay attention to yourselves what you are about to do with these anashim.

orthjbc@Acts:5:36 @ "For at an earlier tekufa (note:)era, period(:note), there was the uprising of Theudas, who claimed to be somebody himself, with whom were associated a number of anashim lav davka approximately four hundred; who was done away with and all as many as were obeying him were dispersed and it came to nothing.

orthjbc@Acts:5:38 @ "And now I say to you, stay away from these anashim, and leave them alone, because if this cheshbon (note:)plan(:note) or this matter is of bnei Adam, it will be overthrown,

orthjbc@Acts:6:3 @ "But select from among you Achim b'Moshiach, that is, shivah anashim, being of shem tov (note:)good reputation(:note) and full of the Ruach Hakodesh and chochmah, whom we will appoint over this duty; [Shemot strkjv@18:21; Nechemyah strkjv@13:13]

orthjbc@Acts:6:11 @ Then they secretly induced anashim to say, "We have heard him commit Chillul Hashem in the words he spoke keneged (note:)against(:note) Moshe Rabbenu and Hashem." [Melachim Alef strkjv@21:10]

orthjbc@Acts:7:26 @ "And on the next day he came to them as they were fighting and Moshe was trying to reconcile them in shalom, saying, `Anashim, you are achim, why are you injuring one another?' [Shemot strkjv@2:13]

orthjbc@Acts:8:3 @ But Rav Sha'ul was making havoc of the Moshiach's Kehillah, barging in bais by bais, dragging off both anashim and nashim, and delivering them over to the beis hasohar. THE BESURAS HAGEULAH IS PREACHED IN SHOMRON, MAKING A GEZUNTE CONFRONTATION WITH THE POWERS OF THE OCCULT; A HITORERUT (note:)SPIRITUAL AWAKENING(:note) BEGINS IN SHOMRON

orthjbc@Acts:8:12 @ But when they had emunah in what Philippos preached about the Malchut Hashem and the Shem of Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach Yehoshua, they, both anashim and nashim, were submitting to Moshiach's tevilah of teshuvah.

orthjbc@Acts:9:2 @ He requested from him iggrot of reshus (note:)authorization(:note) to the shuls of Damascus, that if someone he should find being mishtatef in HaDerech [Hashem], both anashim and nashim, he may lead them bound to Yerushalayim. [Yeshayah strkjv@17:1; Yirmeyah strkjv@49:23]

orthjbc@Acts:9:7 @ And the anashim traveling with Rav Sha'ul had stood speechless, hearing [Sha'ul's] voice but seeing no one. [Daniel strkjv@10:7]

orthjbc@Acts:9:38 @ And since Lud was near to Yafo, Moshiach's talmidim, having heard that Kefa was there, sent shnei anashim to him, summoning Kefa that he not delay in coming to them.

orthjbc@Acts:10:5 @ "Now dispatch some anashim to Yafo and send for a certain Shimon who is also called Kefa.

orthjbc@Acts:10:17 @ Now, while Kefa was greatly perplexed within himself as to what the chazon which he saw might be, hinei, the anashim, who had been sent by Cornelius, and who had, by inquiring, found the bais of Shimon, stood at the gate;

orthjbc@Acts:10:19 @ And while Kefa was reflecting on the chazon, the Ruach Hakodesh said to him, "Hinei, shloshah anashim are looking for you.

orthjbc@Acts:10:21 @ And Kefa went downstairs to the anashim and said, "Hinei, I am the one whom you are seeking; for what reason did you come?"

orthjbc@Acts:11:3 @ saying, "You entered into a bais of anashim arelim (note:)uncircumcised men(:note) and you sat at tish with them."

orthjbc@Acts:11:11 @ "--Hineh-- at once shloshah anashim stood at the bais in which I was, having been sent from Caesarea to me.

orthjbc@Acts:11:20 @ And there were some of them, anashim of Cyprus and Cyrene, who having come to Antioch, were speaking also to the Yevanim (note:)Greeks(:note), proclaiming the Besuras HaGeulah of Adoneinu Yehoshuah.

orthjbc@Acts:13:15 @ After the keriat HaTorah and the keriat HaNeviim, the Rashei Beit HaKnesset sent to them, saying, "Anashim Achim if there is any dvar hachizzuk among you to the people, say it."

orthjbc@Acts:13:38 @ "Let it be known, therefore, to you, Anashim, Achim, that through this one, selicha (note:)forgiveness(:note) of chatta'im, averos [sins] is proclaimed to you; and from all things of which by the Torah of Moshe Rabbenu you were not able to be justified,

orthjbc@Acts:14:11 @ And the multitudes, when they saw what Rav Sha'ul did, shouted in the Lycaonian language, saying, "The g-ds, having been made like anashim, have come down to us."

orthjbc@Acts:14:15 @ "Anashim, why are you doing these things? We also are of the same nature as you, mere men, preaching to you to turn in teshuva from these worthless things to the Elohim Chayyim who made HASHOMAYIM V'ES HAARETZ V'ES HAYAM and all the things in them; [Shmuel Alef strkjv@12:21; Bereshis strkjv@1:1; Tehillim strkjv@146:6; Shemot strkjv@20:11]

orthjbc@Acts:15:7 @ And after much deliberation had taken place, Moshiach's Shliach Shimon Kefa got up. Kefa said to them, "Anashim, Achim b'Moshiach, you have da'as that in the early days Hashem chose that among you I would be the one and through my mouth the Goyim would hear the dvar Hashem of the Besuras HaGeulah and would come to emunah [in the Orthodox Jewish faith]. IT IS THE TEVILAH OF THE RUACH HAKODESH THAT IS HASHEM'S WITNESS AS TO WHO, WHETHER BORN JEWISH OR NON-JEWISH, HAS IN FACT BECOME MEKABEL OF THE TRUE ORTHODOX JEWISH FAITH OF THE TRUE MOSHIACH

orthjbc@Acts:15:13 @ And after Rav Sha'ul and Bar-Nabba fell silent, Moshiach's Shliach Ya'akov responded, saying, "Anashim, Achim b'Moshiach, listen to me." THE REPLY OF THE MOSHIACH'S BRIT CHADASHA "SANHEDRIN" TO SHIMON KEFA, RAV SHA'UL AND BAR-NABBA: TNOIM (note:)STIPULATIONS) [A VARIANT ON THE SHEVA MITZVOS B'NAI NOACH WHICH HAD TO DO WITH 1) COURTS OF JUSTICE, 2) IDOL WORSHIP, 3) BLASPHEMY, 4) HUMAN BLOODSHED, 5) IMMORALITY, 6) ROBBERY, AND 7) EATING THE FLESH OF THE LIMB OF A LIVING ANIMAL] AND THE VARIANT TNOIM LISTED BELOW WERE NECESSARY --AND HERE IS THE IMPORTANT THING--THE PARTICULAR TNOIM LISTED BELOW 1) GILUI ARAYOT 2) SH'CHITAH 3) DAHM AND 4(:note) AVODAH ZARAH WERE NECESSARY NOT MERELY FOR ONE OF THE YIREI ELOHIM G-D-FEARERS OR FOR ONE OF THE CHASIDEI UMOT HAOLAM PIOUS IN THE GENTILE WORLD BUT FOR--IN THE TURNING OF THE AGES IN THE NEW ORDER OF MOSHIACH'S TECHIYAS HAMESIM--A MESSIANIC GER A FULL PROSELYTE TO MESSIANIC ORTHODOX JUDAISM; THIS WAS SO IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE CHAVURAH AT MOSHIACH'S TISH BETWEEN THE SHE'ARIT OF ORTHODOX LAW OBSERVANT JEWS WHO ARE MA'AMINIM HAMESHICHIYIM SEE ACTS strkjv@21:20 AND THE SHE'ARIT OF THE NATIONS WHO ARE MA'AMINIM HAMESHICHIYIM; FOR THE MATTERS OF GILUI ARAYOT SEXUAL IMMORALITY, SH'CHITAH, DAHM, AND AVODAH ZARAH IDOLATRY, ALL HAVE TO DO WITH THE ISSUE OF THE RECEPTION BY THE ORTHODOX JUDAISM OF REBBE, MELECH HAMOSHIACH ADONEINU YEHOSHUA OF THE GER TZEDEK THE SINCERE PROSELYTE FROM THE NATIONS, A CRUCIAL QUESTION REQUIRING ACHDUS IN THE DECISION; MOSHIACH'S SHLIACH YA'AKOV ASSURES HIS FELLOW ORTHODOX JEWS THAT THEY NEED NOT BE THREATENED OR ALARMED BY RAV SHA'UL'S GROWING SHLICHUT TO THE GOYIM BECAUSE HASHEM IS IN FACT VERY MUCH IN THIS WORLD-WIDE ENTERPRISE, AND, BESIDES, NOTHING WILL BE LOST BY ORTHODOX JUDAISM, SINCE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE, THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, SHULS LIKE MOSHIACH'S SHLIACH RAV YA'AKOV'S OWN MESSIANIC ORTHODOX JEWISH SHUL IN YERUSHALAYIM WHERE ON SHABBOS THE TORAH IS READ AND PREACHED AND PRACTICED; THE DECISION OF THIS COUNCIL OF CHAREDIM IS PRIOR TO AND TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER ANY COUNCIL OF THE RABBIS OF YAVNEH OF YOCHANAN BEN ZAKKAI, A FACT TO WHICH HASHEM HIMSELF ATTESTS BY THE OTOT OF THE TEVILAH OF THE RUACH HAKODESH, FOR AT MOSHIACH'S TISH THE SHE'ARIT OF THE NATIONS ARE FULL MESSIANIC PROSELYTES WITH THE BRIS MILAH OF THE RUACH HAKODESH AND HITKHADESHUT AND EACH IS A GER TZEDEK IN MOSHIACH, AND THIS IS THE FINAL OUTCOME OF THE SHEILAH REGARDING TABLE FELLOWSHIP AT ANTIOCH GAL.2:12; ACTS strkjv@15:1; THE "MECHITZAH" SITUATION OF THE ANTI-GENTILE SOREG BARRIER FENCING OFF THE HOLY PRECINCT ON PAIN OF DEATH IN THE BEIS HAMIKDASH ACT.21:28 IS ABOLISHED IN THE ORTHODOX JEWISH BRIT CHADASHA AT THE MOSHIACH'S TISH SEE EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO GROW A MESSIANIC YESHIVA

orthjbc@Acts:15:17 @ `so that the she'arit (note:)remnant(:note) of anashim might seek Hashem and all the GOYIM WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME,

orthjbc@Acts:15:22 @ Then it was mekabel by the Moshiach's Shluchim and the Zekenim with the entire Kehillah to choose anashim from them to send to Syrian Antioch with Rav Sha'ul and Bar-Nabba, also Yehudah called Bar-Sabba, and Sila, all manhigim among the Achim b'Moshiach,

orthjbc@Acts:15:25 @ "it was mekabel to us, having come to achdut in mind and having chosen anashim to send to you, along with our beloved chaverim Bar-Nabba and Sha'ul--

orthjbc@Acts:15:26 @ "anashim who have imperilled their lives for ha-Shem of Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach Adoneinu Yehoshua--

orthjbc@Acts:16:17 @ This one was following Rav Sha'ul, crying out, saying, "These anashim are avadim of G-d HaElyon and are proclaiming to you the Derech HaYeshu'at Eloheinu."

orthjbc@Acts:16:20 @ and having brought them to the chief magistrates, they said, "These anashim, being Jews, are disturbing our city,

orthjbc@Acts:17:12 @ Therefore, many of them became Messianic Jews, and also of the chashuve Yevanim, not a few nashim and anashim came to emunah.

orthjbc@Acts:17:22 @ And Rav Sha'ul, taking his stand in the middle of the Areopagus, said, "Anashim, Athenians, with respect to everything how very religious (note:)dati, chared(:note) indeed I observe you to be.

orthjbc@Acts:17:26 @ "And Hashem made from one ancestor every nation of anashim dwelling pnei kol haAretz. And Hashem has set the zmanim and the fixed boundaries of their habitations, [Devarim strkjv@32:8; Iyov strkjv@12:23]

orthjbc@Acts:17:34 @ And some anashim became mishtatef to Rav Sha'ul, in that they had emunah, among whom were both Dionysius, a member of the Athenian Council of the Areopagus, and an isha by name Damaris, and others with them.

orthjbc@Acts:18:13 @ saying, "This one persuades anashim to worship Hashem in a manner against the Torah."

orthjbc@Acts:19:7 @ And the anashim were about sheneym asar in number.

orthjbc@Acts:19:25 @ Demetrius also assembled the craftsmen occupied with that trade and he said, "Anashim, you have da'as that our prosperity is from this trade,

orthjbc@Acts:19:35 @ And the town clerk, when he had restrained the crowd, said, "Anashim, citizens of Ephesus, who indeed is there among bnei Adam who does not have da'as that the city of Ephesus is the guardian of the heikhal of the great Artemis and of the tzelem that fell from Shomayim?

orthjbc@Acts:19:37 @ "For you brought these anashim here who are neither temple robbers nor speakers of evil against our religion.

orthjbc@Acts:20:30 @ "And from you yourselves will rise up anashim speaking perverted doctrines in order to draw away talmidim after themselves.

orthjbc@Acts:21:23 @ "This, therefore, do, what we tell you. There are with us arba'ah anashim who are under a neder Nezirim.

orthjbc@Acts:21:26 @ Then Rav Sha'ul took the anashim on the following day, and he went with them for hitkadeshut (note:)purification(:note) and was entering the Beis Hamikdash, giving notice of the completion of the yamim of the taharah until was offered for each one of them the korban. [Bamidbar strkjv@6:13-20] TUMUL IN THE BEIS HAMIKDASH

orthjbc@Acts:21:28 @ crying out, "Anashim, Bnei Yisroel, help us! This one is the ish who is giving shiurim to everyone everywhere keneged (note:)against, in opposition to(:note) HaAm [Yisroel] and the Torah of Moshe Rabbenu and this Makom HaKadosh, and in addition also he brought Yevanim into the Beis Hamikdash and has defiled Makom HaKadosh HaZeh the Beis Hamikdash."

orthjbc@Acts:22:1 @ Rav Sha'ul said, "Anashim, Achim, Avot, listen now to my hitstaddekut."

orthjbc@Acts:22:4 @ "I brought redifah on this `Derech,' even to the point of mavet, binding and delivering both anashim and nashim over to the beis hasohar,

orthjbc@Acts:22:15 @ `For you will be an eidus (note:)witness(:note) to him to all anashim of what you have seen and heard.

orthjbc@Acts:23:1 @ And as he gazed at the Sanhedrin, Rav Sha'ul said, "Anashim, Achim, I have lived before Hashem until this day with a lev tahor."

orthjbc@Acts:23:6 @ And Rav Sha'ul, having da'as that one kat is of Tzedukim (note:)Sadducees(:note) and the other of Perushim, was crying out in the Sanhedrin, `Anashim, Achim, I am a Parush ben Parush and it is for the tikvah of the Techiyas HaMesim that I am being judged."

orthjbc@Acts:23:13 @ Now there were more than arba'im anashim (note:)forty men(:note) who joined in this kesher.

orthjbc@Acts:23:21 @ "Therefore, you should not be persuaded by them, for more than arba'im anashim are lying in wait for him and these took a shevu'ah upon themselves neither to eat nor to drink until they have assassinated him,and now they are ready, waiting for your consent."

orthjbc@Acts:24:16 @ "In view of this, I always do my best to keep a matzpun naki (note:)clear conscience(:note) before Hashem and before anashim.

orthjbc@Acts:25:2 @ and the Rashei Hakohanim and manhigim explained to Festus the Rashei Hakohanim and the leading anashim of the Yehudim the charges keneged Rav Sha'ul, and they were begging him,

orthjbc@Acts:25:23 @ Then on the next day Agrippa and Bernice came with great pomp and entered into the auditorium along with both the military tribunes and the chashuve anashim of Caesarea. And Festus the Moshel gave orders to have Rav Sha'ul brought in.

orthjbc@Acts:27:10 @ saying to them, "Anashim, I see that the voyage will be hardship and much peril, not only of the cargo and the oniyah, but also of our lives."

orthjbc@Acts:27:21 @ And after having much loss of appetite, then Rav Sha'ul stood up in the midst of them, and said, "Anashim, you should have obeyed me and not put out to sea from Crete and thereby spared yourselves this hardship and this loss.

orthjbc@Acts:27:25 @ "Therefore have lev same'ach, Anashim. For I have emunah in Hashem that it will be exactly as he has told me.

orthjbc@Acts:28:17 @ And it came about after shloshah yamim, that Rav Sha'ul called together the chashuve Yehudim. And when they had assembled, Rav Sha'ul was saying to them, "Anashim, Achim, though I had done nothing keneged (note:)against, in opposition to(:note) our Jewish people or to the minhagei Avoteinu of Orthodox Judaism, I was arrested in Yerushalayim and delivered over into the hands of the Romans,

orthjbc@Romans:1:19 @ all anashim who, even though what is knowable about Hashem lies plainly before their eyes (note:)for G-d has shown them!(:note), they nevertheless cling to their resha and wickedly suppress haEmes [of Hashem]. THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE BECAUSE HASHEM ES HAOLAM NATAN BELIBAM KOHELET strkjv@3:11; THE OIS VARF REJECT, REPROBATE SEEN AS KOFUI TOIVA INGRATE AND PERVERT, THESE HELD UP AS EXHIBIT "A" TO SHOW THE HUMAN CONDITION WITH HITKHADESHUT

orthjbc@Romans:4:12 @ and in order that he might be the father of the circumcision to those who are not only anashim of circumcision but also who follow in the footsteps of the emunah (note:)faith(:note) of Avraham Avinu, which he had in [his] uncircumcision. THE DERECH TZADDIKIM TO THE HAVTACHAH IS THE DERECH EMUNAH

orthjbc@Romans:5:18 @ So, then, as through the averah of one to all anashim to haresha'ah (note:)condemnation as guilty(:note), so also through the righteous act of one to all anashim to tzidkat Chayyim righteousness of life.

orthjbc@2Timothy:2:2 @ And what things you heard from me through edim rabbim (note:)many witnesses(:note), these things commit to anashim ne'emanim faithful men of zrizus reliability who will be qualified rabbinic morim to teach others also.

orthjbc@2Timothy:3:13 @ but anashim ra'im and impostors will progress to their abysmal worst, misleading and being misled. GIRSA D'YANKUTO (note:)LEARNING ACQUIRED IN CHILDHOOD(:note)

orthjbc@James:4:8 @ Draw near to Hashem and Hashem will draw near to you. Cleanse your yadayim (note:)hands(:note), you chote'im sinners! And purify your levavot, you anashim of double mind! [Tehillim strkjv@73:28; Zecharyah strkjv@1:3; Malachi strkjv@3:7; Yeshayah strkjv@1:16; Tehillim strkjv@24:4; strkjv@119:113; Yirmeyah strkjv@4:14]

orthjbc@1Peter:3:1 @ Nashim (note:)wives(:note), submit similarly to your own ba'alim husbands, that even if any anashim lack mishma'at obedience to the Dvar Hashem [of the Besuras HaGeulah--1:25], through the hitnahagut conduct of their nashim they may be won without the dvar,