John:8:42-47
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John:8:42 @{
Ye would love me } (\
gapate an eme \).
Conclusion of second-class condition with distinct implication that their failure to love Jesus is proof that God is not their Father (
protasis ). {
For I came forth from God } (\
eg
gar ek tou theou ex
lthon \).
Second aorist active indicative of \
exerchomai \,
definite historical event (
the Incarnation ).
See strkjv @
4:30 |
for \
ex
lthon ek \.
In strkjv @
13:3 ;
strkjv @
16:30 |
Jesus is said to have come from (\
apo \)
God .
The distinction is not to be pressed .
Note the definite consciousness of pre-existence with God as in strkjv @
17:5 |. {
And am come } (\
kai h
k \).
Present active indicative with perfect sense in the verb stem (
state of completion )
before rise of the tense and here retained . "
I am here ,"
Jesus means . {
Of myself } (\
ap '
emautou \).
His coming was not self-initiated nor independent of the Father . "
But he (\
ekeinos \,
emphatic demonstrative pronoun )
sent me "
and here I am .
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John:8:43 @{
My speech } (\
t
n lalian t
n em
n \)
and {
my word } (\
ton logon ton emon \).
Perhaps \
lalia \,
old word from \
lalos \ (
talk ),
means here more manner of speech than just story (
4:42 |),
while \
logos \
refers rather to the subject matter .
They will not listen (\
ou dunasthe akouein \)
to the substance of Christ '
s teaching and hence they are impatient with the way that he talks .
How often that is true .
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John:8:44 @{
Ye are of your father the devil } (\
humeis ek tou patros tou diabolou \).
Certainly they can "
understand " (\
gin
skete \
in 43 |)
this "
talk " (\
lalian \)
though they will be greatly angered .
But they had to hear it (\
akouein \
in 43 |).
It was like a bombshell in spite of the preliminary preparation . {
Your will to do } (\
thelete poiein \).
Present active indicative of \
thel \
and present active infinitive , "
Ye wish to go on doing ."
This same idea Jesus presents in strkjv @
Matthew:13:38 | (
the sons of the evil one ,
the devil )
and strkjv @
23:15 | (
twofold more a son of Gehenna than you ).
See also strkjv @
1John:3:8 |
for "
of the devil " (\
ek tou diabolou \)
for the one who persists in sinning .
In strkjv @
Revelation:12:9 |
the devil is one who leads all the world astray .
The Gnostic view that Jesus means "
the father of the devil "
is grotesque .
Jesus does not ,
of course ,
here deny that the Jews ,
like all men ,
are children of God the Creator ,
like Paul '
s offspring of God for all men in strkjv @
Acts:17:28 |.
What he denies to these Pharisees is that they are spiritual children of God who do his will .
They do the lusts and will of the devil .
The Baptist had denied this same spiritual fatherhood to the merely physical descendants of Abraham (
Matthew:3:9 |).
He even called them "
broods of vipers "
as Jesus did later (
Matthew:12:34 |). {
A murderer } (\
anthr
poktonos \).
Old and rare word (
Euripides )
from \
anthr
pos \,
man ,
and \
ktein \,
to kill .
In N .
T .
only here and strkjv @
1John:3:15 |.
The Jews were seeking to kill Jesus and so like their father the devil . {
Stood not in the truth } (\
en t
i al
thei
i ouk est
ken \).
Since \
ouk \,
not \
ouch \,
is genuine ,
the form of the verb is \
esteken \
the imperfect of the late present stem \
st
k \ (
Mark:11:25 |)
from the perfect active \
hest
ka \ (
intransitive )
of \
hist
mi \,
to place . {
No truth in him } (\
ouk estin al
theia en aut
i \).
Inside him or outside (
environment ).
The devil and truth have no contact . {
When he speaketh a lie } (\
hotan lal
i to pseudos \).
Indefinite temporal clause with \
hotan \
and the present active subjunctive of \
lale \.
But note the article \
to \: "
Whenever he speaks the lie ,"
as he is sure to do because it is his nature .
Hence "
he speaks out of his own " (\
ek t
n idi
n lalei \)
like a fountain bubbling up (
cf .
strkjv @
Matthew:12:34 |). {
For he is a liar } (\
hoti pseust
s estin \).
Old word for the agent in a conscious falsehood (\
pseudos \).
See strkjv @
1John:1:10 ;
strkjv @
Romans:3:4 |.
Common word in John because of the emphasis on \
al
theia \ (
truth ). {
And the father thereof } (\
kai ho pat
r autou \).
Either the father of the lie or of the liar ,
both of which are true as already shown by Jesus . {
Autou }
in the genitive can be either neuter or masculine .
Westcott takes it thus , "
because he is a liar and his father (
the devil )
is a liar ,"
making "
one ,"
not the devil ,
the subject of "
whenever he speaks ,"
a very doubtful expression .
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John:8:45 @{
Because I speak the truth } (\
eg
de hoti t
n al
theian leg \).
Proleptic emphatic position of \
eg \. "
Truth is uncongenial to them " (
Bernard ).
See strkjv @
3:19 |
for their picture .
rwp @
John:8:46 @{
Which of you convicteth me of sin ?} (\
Tis ex hum
n elegchei me peri hamaritas ;\).
See on strkjv @
3:20 ;
strkjv @
16:8 | (
the work of the Holy Spirit )
for \
elegch \
for charge and proof .
The use of \
hamartia \
as in strkjv @
1:29 |
means sin in general ,
not particular sins .
The rhetorical question which receives no answer involves sinlessness (
Hebrews:4:15 |)
without specifically saying so .
Bernard suggests that Jesus paused after this pungent question before going on . {
Why do ye not believe me ?} (\
Dia ti humeis ou pisteuete moi ;\).
This question drives home the irrationality of their hostility to Jesus .
It was based on prejudice and predilection .
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John:8:47 @{
He that is of God } (\
ho
n ek tou theou \).
See this use of \
ek \
in strkjv @
3:31f |. "
Their not listening proved that they were not of God " (
Dods ).
They were of the earth and the devil ,
not of God .